Date: 5/13/18 6:50 pm
From: Gmail <butchchq8...>
Subject: Re: Killing Black Vultures
In this context, what exactly is an effigy?

> On May 13, 2018, at 20:36, Jeffrey Short <bashman...> wrote:
>
> I would think depredation of vultures, reinforced by effigies, may have a
> stronger deterrent effect.
>
> The Eglin vultures (to my knowledge) weren't involved in vandalism, which
> could offer a different reinforcement than just hangin' around.
>
> Jeff Short
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List
> [mailto:<ARBIRD-L...>] On Behalf Of Karen And Jim Rowe
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:43 PM
> To: <ARBIRD-L...>
> Subject: Re: Killing Black Vultures
>
> Effigy use is a technique USDA-APHIS-WS uses in Arkansas at the vehicle
> damage sites. It has mixed results.
>
> A number of years ago, a woman from Heber Springs sent me a video of
> vultures tearing up, and tearing into, all the seat cushions on their party
> barge. From what I could see, no cushion was left intact. I counted 9
> Turkey Vultures involved in the activity.
>
> Karen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 13, 2018, at 4:30 PM, Jeffrey Short <bashman...> wrote:
>>
>> One of my USAF colleagues ran a marina in So. California and he told me
> about vultures tearing up his boat seats. First I had heard of that so some
> property damage may occur. Wonder if the off-gassing of plastic tends to
> resemble garbage or dead animals??
>>
>> I would expect that some Black Vultures may be attracted to cattle,
> especially sick or bloody areas.
>>
>> Eglin AFB used vulture effigies to keep them from using communication
> towers as roost sites.
>>
>> Jeff Short
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List
> [mailto:<ARBIRD-L...>] On Behalf Of George R. Hoelzeman
>> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 12:43 PM
>> To: <ARBIRD-L...>
>> Subject: Killing Black Vultures
>>
>> There's an article in the current (Spring 2018) Arkansas Agriculture
>> magazine about Black Vultures by Keith Sutton. It rehashes the usual
>> stuff about them killing calves but goes on to talk about them tearing
>> up vehicles, etc., which I've never heard (not that I hear much). The
>> article provides information on one form of non-lethal prevention
>> (pyrotechnics, which gets about two sentences) then launches into an
>> extended discussion about depredation permits and the need to relax
>> regulations so people can pretty much kill them at leisure.
>>
>> So, questions: Has anyone else seen this article? If so, how much of
>> it is valid and how much is just "agitating the base". Some of this
>> seems rather over the top (like 50+ vultures mobbing a cow during
>> delivery) and a lot seems more about weakening the Migratory Bird Act.
>> The article does reference a statistic from the USDA on damage to cattle
>> caused by vultures ($4.65 million/year) so it has the appearance of
>> legitimacy.
>>
>> Before I go arguing the vultures' case (I happen to like Black Vultures,
>> but haven't had to deal with them in numbers) I'd like solid and
>> reliable information.
>>
>> Input anyone?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> George (n. Conway Co. with nesting vultures, but no roost and no cattle)
 
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