Date: 4/23/18 11:17 pm
From: Bruce Bowman <brucebowman99...>
Subject: [birders] ADMIN -- FAQ for
I have not put this FAQ on a website yet. I suggest that you save

this email in your inbox or some other email folder, or save the

attached text file version FAQ-BIRDERS-Jan6_2018.TXT in a

place you will be able to find it. -- Bruce


FAQ FOR YOUR GOOGLE GROUPS
SUBSCRIPTION TO

<birders...>

-----

This document has three sections. It is organized the way that it is
(PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS first) because it was originally created to
help people already subscribed to solve common problems.

1. PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS
2. PROCEDURES
3. PURPOSE AND DESCRIPTION OF LIST

If you are not yet a member of <birders...> or if you have
a basic question about the list, go first to PROCEDURES (section 2)
or PURPOSE AND DESCRIPTION OF LIST (section 3). If you are having
trouble of any sort with your subscription and you do not find a
solution to your problem in PROCEDURES, go to PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS
(section 1).

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruce Bowman FAQ-BIRDERS-Jan6_2018.TXT January 6, 2018
--------------------------------------------------------------------

1. PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS

Introduction

In summer 2017 the Great Lakes Commission (GLC) moved all of its
listserv email lists from its own servers to Google Groups. The reason
for this was that Sympa-Mailman was no longer available from the vendor.
Google Groups seemed to be the best alternative. To avoid losing
subscribers in the process, part of the procedure was to bring over full
subscriber lists as of at least a couple of months before the move date.
This came with some cost, however. The following list of problems affect
some subscribers. With the listed problems are instructions you can
follow to remove them. "(below)" always refers to the **PROCEDURES**
section.


Problem: AT SOME TIME IN THE PAST YOU UNSUBSCRIBED FROM BIRDERS BUT
NOW FIND THAT YOU ARE AGAIN SUBSCRIBED.

Solution: Unsubscribe from birders. See HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM A
LIST (below).

[A different problem may be disguised as this unwanted resubscription
of an unsubscribed address. It could be a consequence of forgetting
about a subscription that you set for "nomail." If this is the
situation, then you may not want to unsubscribe the address but
instead change the delivery type to No Mail. See HOW TO CHANGE
DELIVERY TYPE (below).]

-----------------------------------

Problem: YOU HAVE TRIED TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THE LIST BUT YOU
RECEIVE AN ERROR MESSAGE THAT SAYS THAT YOU ARE NOT A SUBSCRIBER
OR SOME OTHER SUCH MESSAGE.

Solution: Your unsubscribe email must be sent FROM THE EMAIL
ACCOUNT (address) WHERE YOU ARE SUBSCRIBED! Maybe you are now
using mostly <myaddress...>, for example, but your birders
email is coming from <myaddress...> Maybe you have set
mail to the old address to be forwarded to your favored address.
Double check! If you no longer have access to your old address,
contact your list manager. See HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM A LIST
(below).

-----------------------------------

Problem: YOU ARE RECEIVING MULTIPLE COPIES OF BIRDERS EMAIL.

Solution: You must be subscribed at multiple email addresses.
Unsubscribe addresses where you do not want to receive birders
emails. See HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM A LIST (below).

----------------------------------

Problem: YOU ARE NOW RECEIVING ALL BIRDERS EMAIL AS THEY ARE POSTED
(DELIVERY TYPE 'ALL EMAIL') BUT YOU WANT A DIFFERENT DELIVERY TYPE
(NO MAIL, ABRIDGED EMAIL, OR DIGEST EMAIL)

Solution: Change your delivery type. See HOW TO CHANGE DELIVERY
TYPE (below).

-----------------------------------

Problem: YOU HAVE TRIED TO CHANGE DELIVERY TYPE FOR A SUBSCRIPTION
BUT IT DOESN'T WORK.

Solution: You have probably done something wrong. Try again.
Pay careful attention to all instructions in the section HOW TO
CHANGE DELIVERY TYPE (below).

-----------------------------------

Problem: YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS HAS CHANGED

Solution: Unsubscribe your old address and then subscribe for your
new address. See HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE and HOW TO SUBSCRIBE (below).

----------------------------------

Problem: YOUR POSTS TO THE LIST DON'T REACH THE LIST

Solution: This should not happen with Google Groups, but if it
does, you might try unsubscribing and resubscribing. Remember that
if your delivery type is "No Mail" you will not receive any list
email including your own posts. If you are a new list member and
your attempted post is the first email you have written to the list
since the move to Google Groups, write your list manager and ask if
your email has been held for moderation.

--------------------------------

Problem: ONE OF THE ABOVE BUT FOR SOME OTHER LIST (SE-MI-BIRDLIST,
ENVIRO-SEMICH, JAX-BIRDS, or others for great-lakes.net)

Solution: Follow the instructions for fixing a BIRDERS problem but
substitute the other list name.

---------------------------------

2. PROCEDURES

This is a text file. It is not an html file with active links, so
to use the URLs you will have to copy and paste links into the
location field of a browser.

HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO A LIST (group)

To join the BIRDERS list send an email to

BIRDERS+<subscribe...>

You must send the email from the email address where you would like
to receive the list emails. This can be ANY email address that you
own, whether a gmail.com (Google) address or not.

By default you will receive all list emails as they are posted
throughout the day. If you want to receive list emails in a
different manner, for example in a daily digest, see HOW TO CHANGE
DELIVERY TYPE below.

HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM A LIST (group)

To unsubscribe from the list and stop receiving emails from
it, send an email to

BIRDERS+<unsubscribe...>

The subject field and the message field can be blank. You MUST
send this email from the address where you are subscribed!! If
you no longer have access to your subscription address, contact
your list manager.


HOW TO CHANGE DELIVERY TYPE

Your options for delivery type are as follows.

** No email: receive no list email but still be allowed to post
to the list and visit to read posts of others

** Abridged Email: one summary email of new activity per day

** Digest Email: up to 25 full new messages in a single email

** All Email: all messages are delivered as they are posted
throughout the day

To change your delivery type you must have a Google Account
and password. All gmail.com addresses are part of a Google
Account, so if your list subscription address is a gmail.com
address, you are ready to change delivery type if you wish.
You do this by going here, the group membership page:

https://groups.google.com/a/great-lakes.net/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!myforums

You should see a list of your groups. For each group in the
list, there is a field (second from the right) with a pull-down
menu for your email delivery preferences. Just select the
delivery type you want.

If your subscription address is a non-gmail address, you must
associate your subscription address with a Google Account.
NOTE that this does NOT mean you will need to have or get a
gmail.com account and, again, this is irrelevant unless you
want to change your delivery type.

To associate a non-gmail address with a Google Account, go to

https://accounts.google.com/signupwithoutgmail

There you will enter your non-gmail subscription address, your
name, and some other information. You are asked to create and
confirm a password for the address. This password is for preventing
others from accessing your Google Account. It can be the same
password you use for signing into your email's ISP but it can be any
password of your choosing. (There is also an option here for creating
a gmail.com account. If your intent is to have a subscription to an
email list (Google Group) for a gmail address, you probably already
have the gmail address. You could, though, create a new gmail address
here and then subscribe that address to the list.)


TO POST TO THIS LIST

To post to BIRDERS, send email from your subscription address to
<BIRDERS...> You must be subscribed to the list if you want
to post.


TO VISIT THIS LIST

Visit BIRDERS at https://groups.google.com/a/great-lakes.net/group/BIRDERS/
Here you will find current posts to the list and old posts, too ("archives").
You can read list email here without being a subscriber.

---------------------------------

3. PURPOSE AND DESCRIPTION OF LIST

PURPOSE OF LIST

Michiganders are nature lovers, and like nature lovers worldwide
they have special interest in--even fascination with--birds. It
can fairly be said that this special interest exists in both
youngsters and older people. For Michigan to remain unique among
the 50 states in its beauty and the advantages offered by its
geographic diversity, set as it is amidst four of the Great Lakes,
its citizens must continue to recognize the importance of protecting
her natural beauty and resources. New birders, young and old, are
at the same time (1) a group especially avid about birding and (2)
among those most likely to move on to something else after an initial
excitement has worn off. New retirees are looking for something to
do that is both interesting and challenging. Young people investigate
many activities, looking for ones that captivate them, but, because
there are so many things competing for their attention, will drop a
discovered activity very quickly if it does not immediately strike a
chord. The fact that the range of allowed types of postings to the
list is broad, earning it a description as a "chat" list--not being
limited to reports of uncommon birds seen in the field--is a good
thing. The BIRDERS email list contributes importantly to the goal of
culturing and maintaining interest in birding in Michigan and
appreciation of Michigan's natural wonders.

DESCRIPTION OF LIST

The types of allowed posts cover a wide range. Fundamentally, the
BIRDERS list is about birding and wild birds in Michigan. Any post
with information or questions about those central items, whether
direct or indirect, is on topic. Items that the author deems to be on
the edge of relevance to normal list items should be marked "OT" in
the subject line--OT for off- topic. Wide breadth of allowed types of
posting makes BIRDERS a "chat" list. By definition a birding chat list
is an email list that allows types of birding related posts BEYOND
LISTINGS OF BIRDS SEEN AND THEIR LOCATIONS. BIRDERS is a chat list
because list rules allow posts of all the types listed below, and more.
These are not OT topics. Actual onlist, idle dialogue or banter between
a small number of individuals that is not on topic or of conceivable
interest to the membership as a whole (real chat) is not allowed. It is
actively discouraged, usually offlist, with abusers being asked to go
offlist with their conversations. Occasional reminders of list rules
are posted by list admin.

-------------------------------------------------------------

Primary type of post
* sightings of interesting birds, with locations, dates, and
relevant circumstances

-------------------------------------------------------------

Secondary, but mostly still fully on-topic, types of posts
* forecasts of waves and fallouts in spring and fall migration
* weather forecasts
* sunblock/sunscreen
* insect repellent
* recommendation of good birdng locations in Michigan
* green birding
* window, building, and wind turbine strikes
* for rare birds discovered, detailed directions to the location and also, often, up-to-the-hour information regarding status
* trip reports
* birding guides (paid and not)
* cheap airfare to birding destinations
* annual reports of status of breeding Kirtland's Warbler in the Mio-Grayling area of Michigan
* bird identification, questions and discussion
* bird song identification, bird song CDs, and recorders
* discussion of bird behavior
* bird banding
* bird species codes
* taxonomy
* announcements of birding related meetings and events such as organized bird walks, spring count days, hawk watches, club meetings, special get-togethers
* announcements of group trips to important birding locations in the Great Lakes region (particularly in Michigan) such as Whitefish Point, Sault Ste. Marie, Magee Marsh (on Lake Erie near Toledo), Pte. Mouillee SGA (near Lake Erie Metropark), Tawas Point State Park, etc.
* hearing aids and devices
* discussion of birding optics--binoculars and spotting scopes
* bird photography -- cameras and lenses
* bird photos sent -- -subscriber's own bird photos posted as jpg or png attachments in list archives ; stored there iindefinitely
* bird photos received -- subscriber can opt for delivery of all photo attachments or none (URLize set on)
* bird art
* used birding optics offered for sale
* bird field guides, as books and as apps for smartphones and tablets, etc.;
* discussion of listing software
* referrals to rehabbers for injured birds
* bird baths / water features
* landscaping to attract birds
* bird feeding recommendations (feeders, seed, suet)
* how to deal with squirrels, raccoons, and deer at your feeders
* questions regarding any other aspects of birding and wild birds

* occasional off-topic (OT) posts, usually still related to nature if not birds ; limited discussion allowed
* rare way-off-topic (WOT) posts for trying to reach one or more persons with emergency information

*** Subjects expressly forbidden include cats vs. birds, killing birds,
politics, and human overpopulation.

BIRDERS is a closed list. This means that to post to the list you
must be a subscriber. Incoming mail from nonsubscribers is treated
as spam, i.e., scuttled--ignored. This is nearly 100 percent
effective in blocking spam sent to the list.

Most subscribers receive list postings and themselves post to the
list on occasion. However, with a "nomail" setting a subscriber can
opt not to receive list email but still be allowed to post. Also,
anyone who wants to check list postings irregularly and has no
interest in posting to the list can go to any of several public
archive websites for the BIRDERS list.


The BIRDERS email list is maintained by Bruce M. Bowman
<bbowman99...> It has been in existence for over 25 years
with the same name but in three different forms. It is affiliated
with a family of three other lists that it spawned at umich.edu.
Thanks to the generous support of the Great Lakes Information
Network (GLIN) (June 2013), this family is still together at
Great-Lakes.net. The lists and their creation dates are birders
(1986?), se-mi-birdlist (2002), enviro-semich (2005), and jax-birds
(2007). Contact Bruce with any questions, corrections, or comments
about BIRDERS. For the other lists, contact their respective
administrators.

BIRDERS is hosted by the Great Lakes Information Network (GLIN).

__________________
Sections 1 and 2 of this document were derived from material
provided by Marty Morrice. Any errors are mine. Thanks, also, to
longtime birders member Ivan LaHaie.

Bruce Bowman
January 6, 2018

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FAQ FOR YOUR GOOGLE GROUPS
SUBSCRIPTION TO

<birders...>

-----

This document has three sections. It is organized the way that it is
(PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS first) because it was originally created to
help people already subscribed to solve common problems.

1. PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS
2. PROCEDURES
3. PURPOSE AND DESCRIPTION OF LIST

If you are not yet a member of <birders...> or if you have
a basic question about the list, go first to PROCEDURES (section 2)
or PURPOSE AND DESCRIPTION OF LIST (section 3). If you are having
trouble of any sort with your subscription and you do not find a
solution to your problem in PROCEDURES, go to PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS
(section 1).

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruce Bowman FAQ-BIRDERS-Jan6_2018.TXT January 6, 2018
--------------------------------------------------------------------

1. PROBLEMS AND SOLUTIONS

Introduction

In summer 2017 the Great Lakes Commission (GLC) moved all of its
listserv email lists from its own servers to Google Groups. The reason
for this was that Sympa-Mailman was no longer available from the vendor.
Google Groups seemed to be the best alternative. To avoid losing
subscribers in the process, part of the procedure was to bring over full
subscriber lists as of at least a couple of months before the move date.
This came with some cost, however. The following list of problems affect
some subscribers. With the listed problems are instructions you can
follow to remove them. "(below)" always refers to the **PROCEDURES**
section.


Problem: AT SOME TIME IN THE PAST YOU UNSUBSCRIBED FROM BIRDERS BUT
NOW FIND THAT YOU ARE AGAIN SUBSCRIBED.

Solution: Unsubscribe from birders. See HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM A
LIST (below).

[A different problem may be disguised as this unwanted resubscription
of an unsubscribed address. It could be a consequence of forgetting
about a subscription that you set for "nomail." If this is the
situation, then you may not want to unsubscribe the address but
instead change the delivery type to No Mail. See HOW TO CHANGE
DELIVERY TYPE (below).]

-----------------------------------

Problem: YOU HAVE TRIED TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THE LIST BUT YOU
RECEIVE AN ERROR MESSAGE THAT SAYS THAT YOU ARE NOT A SUBSCRIBER
OR SOME OTHER SUCH MESSAGE.

Solution: Your unsubscribe email must be sent FROM THE EMAIL
ACCOUNT (address) WHERE YOU ARE SUBSCRIBED! Maybe you are now
using mostly <myaddress...>, for example, but your birders
email is coming from <myaddress...> Maybe you have set
mail to the old address to be forwarded to your favored address.
Double check! If you no longer have access to your old address,
contact your list manager. See HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM A LIST
(below).

-----------------------------------

Problem: YOU ARE RECEIVING MULTIPLE COPIES OF BIRDERS EMAIL.

Solution: You must be subscribed at multiple email addresses.
Unsubscribe addresses where you do not want to receive birders
emails. See HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM A LIST (below).

----------------------------------

Problem: YOU ARE NOW RECEIVING ALL BIRDERS EMAIL AS THEY ARE POSTED
(DELIVERY TYPE 'ALL EMAIL') BUT YOU WANT A DIFFERENT DELIVERY TYPE
(NO MAIL, ABRIDGED EMAIL, OR DIGEST EMAIL)

Solution: Change your delivery type. See HOW TO CHANGE DELIVERY
TYPE (below).

-----------------------------------

Problem: YOU HAVE TRIED TO CHANGE DELIVERY TYPE FOR A SUBSCRIPTION
BUT IT DOESN'T WORK.

Solution: You have probably done something wrong. Try again.
Pay careful attention to all instructions in the section HOW TO
CHANGE DELIVERY TYPE (below).

-----------------------------------

Problem: YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS HAS CHANGED

Solution: Unsubscribe your old address and then subscribe for your
new address. See HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE and HOW TO SUBSCRIBE (below).

----------------------------------

Problem: YOUR POSTS TO THE LIST DON'T REACH THE LIST

Solution: This should not happen with Google Groups, but if it
does, you might try unsubscribing and resubscribing. Remember that
if your delivery type is "No Mail" you will not receive any list
email including your own posts. If you are a new list member and
your attempted post is the first email you have written to the list
since the move to Google Groups, write your list manager and ask if
your email has been held for moderation.

--------------------------------

Problem: ONE OF THE ABOVE BUT FOR SOME OTHER LIST (SE-MI-BIRDLIST,
ENVIRO-SEMICH, JAX-BIRDS, or others for great-lakes.net)

Solution: Follow the instructions for fixing a BIRDERS problem but
substitute the other list name.

---------------------------------

2. PROCEDURES

This is a text file. It is not an html file with active links, so
to use the URLs you will have to copy and paste links into the
location field of a browser.

HOW TO SUBSCRIBE TO A LIST (group)

To join the BIRDERS list send an email to

BIRDERS+<subscribe...>

You must send the email from the email address where you would like
to receive the list emails. This can be ANY email address that you
own, whether a gmail.com (Google) address or not.

By default you will receive all list emails as they are posted
throughout the day. If you want to receive list emails in a
different manner, for example in a daily digest, see HOW TO CHANGE
DELIVERY TYPE below.

HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM A LIST (group)

To unsubscribe from the list and stop receiving emails from
it, send an email to

BIRDERS+<unsubscribe...>

The subject field and the message field can be blank. You MUST
send this email from the address where you are subscribed!! If
you no longer have access to your subscription address, contact
your list manager.


HOW TO CHANGE DELIVERY TYPE

Your options for delivery type are as follows.

** No email: receive no list email but still be allowed to post
to the list and visit to read posts of others

** Abridged Email: one summary email of new activity per day

** Digest Email: up to 25 full new messages in a single email

** All Email: all messages are delivered as they are posted
throughout the day

To change your delivery type you must have a Google Account
and password. All gmail.com addresses are part of a Google
Account, so if your list subscription address is a gmail.com
address, you are ready to change delivery type if you wish.
You do this by going here, the group membership page:

https://groups.google.com/a/great-lakes.net/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!myforums

You should see a list of your groups. For each group in the
list, there is a field (second from the right) with a pull-down
menu for your email delivery preferences. Just select the
delivery type you want.

If your subscription address is a non-gmail address, you must
associate your subscription address with a Google Account.
NOTE that this does NOT mean you will need to have or get a
gmail.com account and, again, this is irrelevant unless you
want to change your delivery type.

To associate a non-gmail address with a Google Account, go to

https://accounts.google.com/signupwithoutgmail

There you will enter your non-gmail subscription address, your
name, and some other information. You are asked to create and
confirm a password for the address. This password is for preventing
others from accessing your Google Account. It can be the same
password you use for signing into your email's ISP but it can be any
password of your choosing. (There is also an option here for creating
a gmail.com account. If your intent is to have a subscription to an
email list (Google Group) for a gmail address, you probably already
have the gmail address. You could, though, create a new gmail address
here and then subscribe that address to the list.)


TO POST TO THIS LIST

To post to BIRDERS, send email from your subscription address to
<BIRDERS...> You must be subscribed to the list if you want
to post.


TO VISIT THIS LIST

Visit BIRDERS at https://groups.google.com/a/great-lakes.net/group/BIRDERS/
Here you will find current posts to the list and old posts, too ("archives").
You can read list email here without being a subscriber.

---------------------------------

3. PURPOSE AND DESCRIPTION OF LIST

PURPOSE OF LIST

Michiganders are nature lovers, and like nature lovers worldwide
they have special interest in--even fascination with--birds. It
can fairly be said that this special interest exists in both
youngsters and older people. For Michigan to remain unique among
the 50 states in its beauty and the advantages offered by its
geographic diversity, set as it is amidst four of the Great Lakes,
its citizens must continue to recognize the importance of protecting
her natural beauty and resources. New birders, young and old, are
at the same time (1) a group especially avid about birding and (2)
among those most likely to move on to something else after an initial
excitement has worn off. New retirees are looking for something to
do that is both interesting and challenging. Young people investigate
many activities, looking for ones that captivate them, but, because
there are so many things competing for their attention, will drop a
discovered activity very quickly if it does not immediately strike a
chord. The fact that the range of allowed types of postings to the
list is broad, earning it a description as a "chat" list--not being
limited to reports of uncommon birds seen in the field--is a good
thing. The BIRDERS email list contributes importantly to the goal of
culturing and maintaining interest in birding in Michigan and
appreciation of Michigan's natural wonders.

DESCRIPTION OF LIST

The types of allowed posts cover a wide range. Fundamentally, the
BIRDERS list is about birding and wild birds in Michigan. Any post
with information or questions about those central items, whether
direct or indirect, is on topic. Items that the author deems to be on
the edge of relevance to normal list items should be marked "OT" in
the subject line--OT for off- topic. Wide breadth of allowed types of
posting makes BIRDERS a "chat" list. By definition a birding chat list
is an email list that allows types of birding related posts BEYOND
LISTINGS OF BIRDS SEEN AND THEIR LOCATIONS. BIRDERS is a chat list
because list rules allow posts of all the types listed below, and more.
These are not OT topics. Actual onlist, idle dialogue or banter between
a small number of individuals that is not on topic or of conceivable
interest to the membership as a whole (real chat) is not allowed. It is
actively discouraged, usually offlist, with abusers being asked to go
offlist with their conversations. Occasional reminders of list rules
are posted by list admin.

-------------------------------------------------------------

Primary type of post
* sightings of interesting birds, with locations, dates, and
relevant circumstances

-------------------------------------------------------------

Secondary, but mostly still fully on-topic, types of posts
* forecasts of waves and fallouts in spring and fall migration
* weather forecasts
* sunblock/sunscreen
* insect repellent
* recommendation of good birdng locations in Michigan
* green birding
* window, building, and wind turbine strikes
* for rare birds discovered, detailed directions to the location and also, often, up-to-the-hour information regarding status
* trip reports
* birding guides (paid and not)
* cheap airfare to birding destinations
* annual reports of status of breeding Kirtland's Warbler in the Mio-Grayling area of Michigan
* bird identification, questions and discussion
* bird song identification, bird song CDs, and recorders
* discussion of bird behavior
* bird banding
* bird species codes
* taxonomy
* announcements of birding related meetings and events such as organized bird walks, spring count days, hawk watches, club meetings, special get-togethers
* announcements of group trips to important birding locations in the Great Lakes region (particularly in Michigan) such as Whitefish Point, Sault Ste. Marie, Magee Marsh (on Lake Erie near Toledo), Pte. Mouillee SGA (near Lake Erie Metropark), Tawas Point State Park, etc.
* hearing aids and devices
* discussion of birding optics--binoculars and spotting scopes
* bird photography -- cameras and lenses
* bird photos sent -- -subscriber's own bird photos posted as jpg or png attachments in list archives ; stored there iindefinitely
* bird photos received -- subscriber can opt for delivery of all photo attachments or none (URLize set on)
* bird art
* used birding optics offered for sale
* bird field guides, as books and as apps for smartphones and tablets, etc.;
* discussion of listing software
* referrals to rehabbers for injured birds
* bird baths / water features
* landscaping to attract birds
* bird feeding recommendations (feeders, seed, suet)
* how to deal with squirrels, raccoons, and deer at your feeders
* questions regarding any other aspects of birding and wild birds

* occasional off-topic (OT) posts, usually still related to nature if not birds ; limited discussion allowed
* rare way-off-topic (WOT) posts for trying to reach one or more persons with emergency information

*** Subjects expressly forbidden include cats vs. birds, killing birds,
politics, and human overpopulation.

BIRDERS is a closed list. This means that to post to the list you
must be a subscriber. Incoming mail from nonsubscribers is treated
as spam, i.e., scuttled--ignored. This is nearly 100 percent
effective in blocking spam sent to the list.

Most subscribers receive list postings and themselves post to the
list on occasion. However, with a "nomail" setting a subscriber can
opt not to receive list email but still be allowed to post. Also,
anyone who wants to check list postings irregularly and has no
interest in posting to the list can go to any of several public
archive websites for the BIRDERS list.


The BIRDERS email list is maintained by Bruce M. Bowman
<bbowman99...> It has been in existence for over 25 years
with the same name but in three different forms. It is affiliated
with a family of three other lists that it spawned at umich.edu.
Thanks to the generous support of the Great Lakes Information
Network (GLIN) (June 2013), this family is still together at
Great-Lakes.net. The lists and their creation dates are birders
(1986?), se-mi-birdlist (2002), enviro-semich (2005), and jax-birds
(2007). Contact Bruce with any questions, corrections, or comments
about BIRDERS. For the other lists, contact their respective
administrators.

BIRDERS is hosted by the Great Lakes Information Network (GLIN).

__________________
Sections 1 and 2 of this document were derived from material
provided by Marty Morrice. Any errors are mine. Thanks, also, to
longtime birders member Ivan LaHaie.

Bruce Bowman
January 6, 2018
 
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