Date: 3/22/18 7:54 am
From: Susie R. <njt456...>
Subject: Re: [JERSEYBI] Why are Purple Finches called "purple"?
FWIW, I always think of Purple Finches as being the color of raspberries.

Also, FWIW, the Fox Sparrow that was here all day yesterday has returned.

Susie R.
Tewksbury/Califon


On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Diane C Louie <dclouie...>
wrote:

> After some research, I am thinking the first use of “Purple Finch” is by
> Catesby.
>
> Elliott Coues says that Catesby applied a misnomer. Later, Trotter is
> more critical.
>
> Elliott Comes:
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=p0QhAQAAMAAJ&pg=
> PA385&lpg=PA385&dq=catesby%27s+first+illustration+of+
> purple+finch&source=bl&ots=bM0PB8ojd7&sig=hKsbDDxqUAaFrWF8KE8hAexJZNk&
> hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqtPGaiYDaAhVSiqwKHZ6bDBgQ6AEIPzAH#v=onepage&q=
> catesby's%20first%20illustration%20of%20purple%20finch&f=false <
> https://books.google.com/books?id=p0QhAQAAMAAJ&pg=
> PA385&lpg=PA385&dq=catesby%27s+first+illustration+of+
> purple+finch&source=bl&ots=bM0PB8ojd7&sig=hKsbDDxqUAaFrWF8KE8hAexJZNk&
> hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqtPGaiYDaAhVSiqwKHZ6bDBgQ6AEIPzAH#v=onepage&q=
> catesby's first illustration of purple finch&f=false>
>
> Trotter:
>
> > https://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/auk/
> v026n04/p0346-p0363.pdf <https://sora.unm.edu/sites/
> default/files/journals/auk/v026n04/p0346-p0363.pdf>
>
> And, in the 3rd edition of Catesby’s engravings (published after his
> death), the description of the bird accompanying the corresponding
> illustration clearly uses
> the word “purple”:
>
> http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/
> dmisc/id/1658/show/1539 <http://dc.lib.unc.edu/cdm/
> compoundobject/collection/dmisc/id/1658/show/1539>
>
> Some (handpainted) prints I have seen online of Catesby’s Purple Finch
> engraving seem purple and others crimson.
> Are the crimson ones correcting an error?
>
> Catesby preceded Linnaeus. Does the Linnaean species name bring forward
> Catesby’s common name?
>
> But, interestingly, Choate in his Dictionary of American Bird Names, says
> that “purpureus” comes from
>
> ' L. “crimson” or other reddish color….In ancient times wearing crimson
> signified royal rank.
> So in the classical sense of the word, the name of the color
> is correct for the bird’s plumage.'
>
>
> Diane Louie, Madison
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2018, at 4:52 PM, B.G. Sloan <bgsloan3...> <mailto:
> <bgsloan3...>> wrote:
>
> Something I've always been curious about. Why are Purple Finches
> called "purple" when they are not purple? (I believe the Spanish
> common name for Purple Finch translates into "Red Finch")...
>
> I thought I remembered reading something about "purple" being a
> different shade back in the day when the bird got its name? Or I could
> just be imagining that. :-)
>
> Bernie Sloan
> Highland Park
>
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