Date: 2/2/18 9:09 am
From: Dominic Garcia-Hall <dominic.hall...>
Subject: Re: [nfc-l] How do we know NFCs?
Thanks for sharing the paper Jay. I have one of Bill’s mics so it was v
interesting reading that.
By way of comparison, I moved from the States to Europe last Fall, and have
been resuming my NFC recording on this side of the pond. We are certainly
still behind on NFC knowledge over here, and for a many species still in
the phase of comparing to diurnal calls (well, I am anyway). But it’s
changing fast and there is some interesting work being done - in
particularly the UK based Sound Approach who are publishing a lot of stuff:
https://soundapproach.co.uk/category/night-flight-calls/
I also have been recording a bit when I go back to visit family in
Argentina. But this is ground zero. I can ID about 1% of a typical night’s
calls ;) But it has given me a lot of respect for the folks who pioneered
this back in the day.

Cheers
Dom
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On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 at 05:24, Wim van Dam <wim.van.dam...> wrote:

> Thanks for sharing this Jay, that was a great read.
>
> To me, an exciting current development is the application of modern
> machine learning tools to get algorithms ("apps") for automatically
> classifying NFCs. There is some great work on this from the BirdVox people
> at NYU + Cornell; see: https://wp.nyu.edu/birdvox/
>
> Hopefully the development and distribution of such software will encourage
> more people to get into the NFCs business.
>
> As a Californian I'm also interested in the current insights about the
> east versus west difference in NFCs in the USA.
>
> Wim van Dam
> Solvang, CA
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Jay Withgott <withgott...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi everyone — and thanks, Ted, for giving me an excuse to dredge up this
>> oldie-but-goodie of an article, from the Dec. 2002 issue of Birding.
>> Sixteen years ago, yeah, sheeesh — guess that makes us old-timers now, Ted.
>>
>> Attached is a PDF of the article, and also attached is a low-res copy of
>> Julie Zickefoose’s wonderful BB Cuckoo art for the cover of that issue.
>>
>> Definitely takes me down memory lane. I’d be interested to hear people’s
>> thoughts on what has changed and what has stayed the same since this
>> ancient 2002 status report!
>>
>> Jay Withgott
>> Portland, OR
>>
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>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 6:21 AM, Ted Floyd <tfloyd...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jay Withgott?
>>>
>>> You out there?
>>>
>>> Could you post a PDF of your fine article in *Birding*, gasp, 16 years
>>> ago? (Feels like yesterday.)
>>>
>>> Best, --TF
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>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:50 AM, Wim van Dam <wim.van.dam...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So as I'm starting to learn about NFCs the obvious question came to
>>>> me: how do we know what we currently know?
>>>>
>>>> Do we typically infer ID features from daytime flight calls where we
>>>> can visually verify our IDs? Or are night calls too different from
>>>> daytime ones, meaning that we have/had to find other ways of matching
>>>> calls with birds (netting, night time visual observations, etc)?
>>>>
>>>> Imagine somebody trying to get into NFCs in an unexplored part of the
>>>> world. How does such a person start?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Wim van Dam
>>>> Solvang, CA (USA)
>>>>
>>>
>>
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