Date: 1/11/18 3:40 pm
From: Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14...>
Subject: Re: [cobirds] Coors Ponds security (Jefferson) No RNGR or LTDU
Well done Joe.
Ira Sanders

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Joe Roller <jroller9...> wrote:

> Bob
> The above is wrong.
> I talked to the head of Coors Securtiy (very cordial) about noon, and she
> will call me back after she checks.
>
> *Birders* want to be good neighbors and know what the rules are
> and *Coors* wants good Public Relations, so I expect good things to come
> of this.
>
> Will post her reply to COBirds.
>
> Joe
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Joe <jroller9...> wrote:
>
>> Bob anything beyond the very shoulder of the road is private. More than
>> just the fenced area. I’ll reach out to them
>> Joe
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:09, Joe Roller <jroller9...> wrote:
>>
>> I have been approached in the past by Coors security and I moved back to
>> the
>> Shoulder, as the land near the fence was their property, I was told. Did
>> not have
>> a camera.
>> Your note was helpful.
>> Joe
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Ira Sanders <zroadrunner14...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Didn't seem to bother us in years past.
>>> Ira Sanders
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Joe Roller <jroller9...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The deep background on the care with which Coors guards its property is
>>>> that
>>>> a few decades ago, the family suffered a horrible child kidnapping and
>>>> murder.
>>>> Plus a Coors family member lives right on the lakeshore.
>>>>
>>>> I can see why they are sensitive.
>>>>
>>>> Joe Roller, Denver
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 8:04 AM, Steven Rash <srashchiro...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Let me just preface this by saying I am not a lawyer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked up the zoning for the properties along McIntyre right there
>>>>> and according to Jeffco Co records the property line does extend to the
>>>>> center of the road from both sides...
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case the use of McIntyre is likely an easement which would
>>>>> grant public passage through there, but I think that's about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The grey area comes in that it is not typical that a property owner
>>>>> also owns roadside ditches. The way to find out for sure would be to dig
>>>>> into county records and see if coors is paying taxes on that entire parcel,
>>>>> or only up to their fence line. If it's the latter, then they can't really
>>>>> ask you to leave, or to not take pictures of anything that's viewable from
>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my two cents. Happy Birding.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Rash
>>>>> Denver Co
>>>>>
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>>> Golden, CO
>>> "My mind is a raging torrent flooded with rivulets of thought cascading
>>> into a waterfall of creative alternatives."
>>>
>>
>>
>


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