Date: 11/1/17 4:58 am
From: Devorah the Ornithologist <birdologist...>
Subject: Re: [Tweeters] re crow playing
there is research to show that play has a useful function in birds (and
maybe in humans, too?): parrots (kea? goffin's cockatoos?) allowed to
"play" with a particular tool were later able to solve a puzzle box using
that tool, even though they'd never seen the puzzle box before.

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:59 AM, Paul Bannick <paul.bannick...> wrote:

> i was surprised and enchanted by watching two different groups of Northern
> Hawk Owls play on four separate occasions, photos and story to be
> published.....
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 5:55 PM, <kristinstewart01...> wrote:
>
>> And Ravens also, along with many other species of critters! I agree with
>> Lonnie and Margaret!
>>
>> Kristin Stewart
>> Olympia
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Lonnie Somer <mombiwheeler...> wrote:
>>
>> Well, shouting down from the great heights of egotism, I have to say that
>> I actually agree with you. I've been around non-human animals all of my
>> life, and I've never doubted that many animals play for the shear enjoyment
>> of it, including crows.
>>
>> Lonnie Somer
>> Seattle
>> <mombiwheeler...>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Margaret Sandelin <
>> <msand47...> wrote:
>>
>>> Re Lonnie Somer's posting about the crow "playing", it is the height of
>>> egotism to think only humans play and to say we are anthropomorphizing if
>>> an animal or bird does something we think only we do. Over the last many
>>> decades there has been many studies to indicate that animals and birds
>>> (especially crows and raven) do thing we think only we do and seem to have
>>> some of the same "emotions". And if you get right down to it, humans
>>> "play" for many useful and practical reason.
>>> Margaret Sandelin
>>> Seattle
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