Date: 9/19/17 11:43 pm
From: Mitchell Nussbaum <dmarc-noreply...> (Redacted sender acornwithteeth for DMARC)
Subject: [wisb] Re: Lake Barney Fall Sparrows
Thank you for the map and directions. Went there today. Saw at least 10 killdeer in the flooded field, plus several other shorebirds, perhaps a yellowlegs. Also 5 cormorants in a dead tree east of the cornfield, and 3 Great blue herons in another dead tree. There were sparrows, but the sun was setting so I couldn't identify them. And flocks of blackbirds, Canada geese and some ducks far out in the lake.

- Genie Ogden
Madison
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On Sun, 9/17/17, Kris Perlberg <kris...> wrote:

Subject: [wisb] Re: Lake Barney Fall Sparrows
To: <stevethiessen...>
Cc: <dmarc-noreply...>, <jonesa97...>, <Wisbirdn...>, <tcwood729...>
Date: Sunday, September 17, 2017, 11:17 AM

I’ve created a little map that
might be helpful for those who are from out of town or
unfamiliar with Lake Barney access.

https://flic.kr/p/YvN7PU <https://flic.kr/p/YvN7PU>


Kris
Perlberg
Stoughton


> On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:47
AM, Steve Thiessen <stevethiessen...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> The lake is best
viewed from Cty M. It is on prison farm property. So
don't
> enter. We walk in across
from Caine Road. The field just south of the mule
> pastures is where the LeConte's have
been seen. I believe the Nelson's
>
wasn't seen today,  2 or 3 LeConte's were and a
Henslow's. A Merlin and
> Peregrine
were reported in the area. Some shorebirds come and go ,from
the
> wet pasture. Steve Thiessen
Stoughton Dane co.
> ----- Original
Message -----
> From: "Mitchell
Nussbaum (Redacted sender "acornwithteeth" for
DMARC)"
> <dmarc-noreply...>
> To: <jonesa97...>;
<Wisbirdn...>;
<tcwood729...>
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 12:02
AM
> Subject: [wisb] Re: Lake Barney Fall
Sparrows
>
>
>> I have the same question. How do you
get near the lake? Someone from the
>> DNR sent a map that showed 2 parking
lots, one on Fish Hatchery and the
>>
other on County M. We parked in the one on "M" and
tried to walk in. There
>> were paths
that didn't go very far. So we ended up pulling over
next to the
>> fence near the lake -
there's a No Trespassing sign on the gate. So we
>> looked from there and saw lots of
Canada geese, 1 Great egret, a Great blue
>> heron and some water birds that might
have been mergansers.
>> - Genie
OgdenMadison
>>  On Saturday,
September 16, 2017 6:31 PM, Austin Jones
>> <jonesa97...>
wrote:
>>
>>

>> Hi all,
>>
When birding Lake Barney, how do you access/what is the best
area for
>> observing sparrows?
>>
>> This morning
I went by and wasn't sure, so I drove down an access
road
>> east
>>
of the lake that appeared to head back towards the lake. I
wasn't sure
>> whether this road
was public or not.
>>
>> I didn't get a chance to walk
around and explore, but I did happen to see
>> a
>> Peregrine
catch what appeared to be a Kildeer on the flooded field. I
was
>> initially wondering why the
geese, doves, pigeons, gulls, and shorebirds
>> were all flying away at once -- and
quickly realized who the culprit was.
>>
>> Austin
>>
>> On Fri, Sep
15, 2017 at 17:19 Tom Wood <tcwood729...>
wrote:
>>
>>> I think many of us (me included)
use the term "juvenile" a bit too
>>> loosely.
>>> Technically a bird is a juvenile
from the time it acquires its first
>>> plumage
>>> after hatching until it acquires
basic plumage.
>>> The description
of the molt of LeConte's Sparrow in "Birds of
North
>>> America"
>>> is actually quite complex,
indicating that it undergoes a partial molt as
>>> early as September on the breeding
grounds and extending into October and
>>> November on the wintering
grounds.
>>> This partial molt does
not include the primaries and secondaries or tail
>>> feathers, but does include body
plumage. Thus, the birds we see in
>>> migration
>>> can be in a transition state
between juvenile and basic plumage.
>>> The following is a brief summary
of juvenile plumage from "Birds of North
>>> America" :
>>>
>>>
"Juvenile LeConte's Sparrows are superficially
similar to adults. Buff on
>>>
face, throat, and breast is duller, crown stripe with buff,
nape buffy,
>>> almost unstreaked,
and breast with fine streaking."
>>>
>>> I
guess we are lucky that the streaking on the nape shows up
in the
>>> photos
>>> that have been presented. An
ominous warning appears in BNA's description
>>> of
>>>
juvenile plumage:
>>>
>>> "Sufficiently similar to
Nelson's Sharp-tailed Sparrow that some
>>> descriptions of Juvenile-plumaged
Nelson's Sharp-tailed Sparrow were
>>> actually based on a juvenile
LeConte's Sparrow specimen."
>>>
>>> This
emphasizes Steve's point about the difficulty in trying
to identify
>>> these young
sparrows.
>>> Thomas Wood,
Menomonee Falls, Waukesha County
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: <wisbirdn-bounce...>

>>> [mailto:<wisbirdn-bounce...>]
>>> On Behalf Of Kenneth Younger
>>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017
4:42 PM
>>> To: <gseegert...>
>>> Cc: Thomas Wood; <trschultz...>;
<Wisbirdn...>
>>> Subject: [wisb] Re: Lake Barney
Fall Sparrows
>>>
>>> Sibley's guide has a
differentiated sketch for the juvenile. Generally
>>> less
>>>
bold and crisp, more buffy in the belly than white. More
buffy overall
>>> than
>>> orange. He also notes "broad,
pale stripes" on the back, but the line
>>> from
>>>
that text is pointing to the dark stripes on the
illustration. Odd.
>>> -Kenny
>>>
>>> On
Sep 15, 2017 4:22 PM, "Seegert, Greg" <gseegert...>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom S
>>>> Thanks for weighing in on this
ID. It's not a form I recall seeing
>>> before.
>>>>
>>>> I think sparrows breed the
year after they are born. If that is true,
>>>> is there any difference
between a juvenile and an immature LeConte's
>>> sparrow?
>>>> If there is could someone
explain the difference?
>>>>
>>>> Greg Seegert
>>>> Beaver Dam
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: <wisbirdn-bounce...>
>>>> [mailto:<wisbirdn-bounce...>]
>>>> On Behalf Of Tom Schultz
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 15,
2017 1:50 PM
>>>> To: <tcwood729...>;
<Wisbirdn...>
>>>> Subject: [wisb] Re: Lake
Barney Fall Sparrows
>>>>
>>>> I also agree with the ID as
LeConte's Sparrow -- a juvenile or
>>>> immature.
>>>> This seems to be a plumage
that isn't often documented/photographed
>>>> for this species.
>>>>
>>>> Tom Schultz
>>>> Green Lake Co.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Tom Wood
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 15,
2017 1:26 PM
>>>> To: <Wisbirdn...>
>>>> Subject: [wisb] Re: Lake
Barney Fall Sparrows
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Le Conte's,
Kris. The orange face, gray auriculars, and
>>>> small bill narrow it down to
either Le Conte's or Nelson's Sparrows.
>>>> Since Nelson's would have
a plain gray nape and dark gray median crown
>>>> stripe, and the bird you
photographed has many spots on the nape and a
>>>> white median crown stripe,
this must be the Le Conte's. It's nice that
>>>> you got several angles of this
bird.
>>>> Thomas Wood,
Menomonee Falls, Waukesha County
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: <wisbirdn-bounce...>
>>>> [mailto:<wisbirdn-bounce...>]
>>>> On Behalf Of Kris Perlberg
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 15,
2017 12:23 PM
>>>> To: wisb
>>>> Subject: [wisb] Lake Barney
Fall Sparrows
>>>>
>>>> A beautiful morning!
>>>> Shawn M. and I started
searching for Nelson and LeConte Sparrows
>>>> around
>>>> 7:30 and were joined about 30
min. later by Steve T, Nolan P., Jim S.
>>>> who got on a
Nelsonââ,¬â"¢s almost immediately. We all got
pretty
>>>> good looks at it as
it popped out of some grapevines and then even
>>>> better looks at it flew east
and landed on the rope fence. Greg S
>>>> showed up around the time we
found the Nelson's and he and Shawn
>>>> flushed
>>> a
>>>
possible LeConteââ,¬â"¢s Sparrow.
>>>> It was determined to remain
low in the grass and out of sight but it
>>>> eventually popped up high
enough for us to get some pretty good views
>>>> and I was able to snap some
photos.
>>>>
>>>> It would be nice to get other
opinions on this bird as it was very
>>>> light colored and rather drab
so probably not an adult.
>>>>

>>>> Here is my eBird checklist
with photos if others want to weigh in:
>>>>
>>>>
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