Date: 9/11/17 9:14 am
From: Brandon Magette <averbirder...>
Subject: Re: Subject: Playa
Preferably all are playa del birdie as opposed to playa del nada.

Yes I am making this up and no I don't speak Spanish...

Brandon Magette of St Marys, mobile at 785-844-0139

On Sep 11, 2017 10:55 AM, "EUGENE YOUNG" <EUGENE.YOUNG...> wrote:

> Often, ephemeral wetlands...
>
> Eugene A. Young
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> From: Birds & Their Habitats in Kansas [mailto:<KSBIRD-L...>]
> On Behalf Of coleen brown
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:30 AM
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> Subject: Re: Subject: Playa
>
> So what would you call a low lying field that regularly floods?
> Coleen Brown, Manhattan, KS
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Chris Hobbs <chobbs.f1...>
> Date: 9/10/17 8:14 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: <KSBIRD-L...>
> Subject: Re: Subject: Playa
>
> Sounds like 'lagoon' for some, 'playas' for others, and 'floodles' for
> those who like informal, yet descriptive names.
>
> Chris Hobbs
> Lenexa
> <chobbs.f1...>
>
> On Sep 10, 2017 6:55 PM, "Tom SHANE" <tom.shane...> wrote:
>
> > Mr. Burkepile and Kansas birders, I have thought about your question
> > several times in recent decades, but did not follow-up on the topic.
> > The first playa where I remember watching birds was just northwest of
> > the town of Plains in western Meade County on July 4th, 1964. There
> > was a good variety of birds there, including a male Cinnamon Teal
> > along with Yellow-headed Blackbirds which I recorded in my field
> > notes. I recorded the place as a marsh. When Sara, a Scott County
> > native, and I were first married she, along with her father, uncle and
> > brothers just called them ponds. We both call them playas now, but
> > cannot give you a date of the transition.
> >
> > The following is only a scratch on the surface of the topic. I made a
> > quick check of the publications in my library that could shed some
> > light on the subject. The index for the Transaction of the Kansas
> > Academy of Science
> > (TKAS) covering the period 1872 through 1965, has no entries for
> > playa. The run of publications including a thesis, directories and
> > Birds in or of Kansas, including: Long 1935; Goodrich 1946; Tordoff
> > 1956; Johnston 1960, 1964, & 1965; Rising 1974; Thompson and Ely 1989;
> > do not mention playas in the opening sections of those publications.
> > TEGOPSY (2011) Birds of Kansas mentions "ephemeral playas" once in the
> > paragraph on natural lakes. Mosby & Lynn (1956) Water Birds Resident
> > in Kansas in Summer, 1955. TKAS, does not list types of water features
> > other than lakes & ponds. Zuvanich & McHenry
> > (1964) Comparisons of Water Birds Observed in Kansas in 1955 and 1963.
> > TKAS, mention water features such as: sewer lake, marsh, state & city
> > lakes, reservoir, pond, slough, and surface water. It is apparent that
> > they called playas, "surface water" by the locations mentioned. The
> > first paper on birds and playa lakes in Kansas was most likely by Tom
> > Flowers (1996) Classification and Occurrence of the Birds of the Playa
> > Lakes of Meade County, Kansas. KOS Bull. 47(2): 21-28.,
> > <http://www.ksbirds.org/kos/ bulletin/Vol47No2.pdf>.
> >
> > Doc Sutton in his 1967 book, Oklahoma Birds, does not mention playa
> > but apparently describes one nicely ------ "Webb Lake (near Hardesty,
> > Texas County), an impressive body of water when there has been plenty
> > of rain, but dry as a bone in periods of severe drought." Baumgartner
> > & Baumgartner
> > (1992) Oklahoma Bird Life, has a photo of and labels the picture a
> > Playa Lake, north of Boise City.
> >
> > I checked the book by Ken Seyffert (2001) Birds of the Texas
> > Panhandle, where he dedicates half a page to the subject of playas
> > scattered across the Texas Panhandle. He also cites older publications
> > such as Simpson & Bolen (1981) Wildlife Assessment of Playa Lakes., US
> > Bureau of Reclamation SW region Amarillo, Texas. In an older book
> > mentioning playa by Oberholser
> > (1974) Bird Life of Texas, he shows a photo of Muleshoe National
> > Wildlife Refuge with the opening of the caption reading:
> > "Sink-type-Lake --- or Playa --- on Panhandle." I called Ken yesterday
> > morning and asked him when the word playa was first mentioned in the
> > Texas Panhandle literature. He was excited and thought that was a
> > fabulous question. He stated that birders and others were using the
> > word playa regularly when he first started bird watching at Amarillo
> > in 1963. James Stevenson (1942) Birds of the Central Panhandle of
> > Texas, Condor 44: 108-115; discusses the temporary lakes, but calls
> > them "wet-weather" lakes. Arthur Hawkins (1945) Bird Life in the Texas
> > Panhandle, The Panhandle-Plains Historical Review 18: 110-150; calls
> > them playa lakes, and provides a nice brief discussion of bird groups
> > to be expected at various water levels along with types of vegetation
> and the percent land coverage of the playas.
> >
> > The Texas Panhandle is often associated with southwestern offices of
> > various government agencies and the word playa was probably used more
> > frequently than those regional agencies Kansas was associated with.
> > All but one university in Kansas are located far from the playa region
> in Kansas.
> > Until you live in the middle of the playas of western Kansas, one does
> > not appreciate the importance of them, especially to migrating birds.
> > So the Kansas ornithology professors did not research or write
> > anything about them. Dr Ely had students working on playa lakes, but
> > that will have to be researched at another time as far as the use of
> > the word playa in their theses. I have a copy of the thesis by Davis,
> > but cannot find it. That compared to the universities and colleges
> > situated in the middle of the playa zones of the Texas Panhandle.
> > Texas Tech University has been a regional leader on the subject for a
> > long time now. The highly visible PLJV, which started in 1988, has
> > probably done more than any other factor in converting Kansas people and
> birders to using the word playa.
> >
> > For those in the need, you can find complete references on the ones I
> > left very short, in: Thompson, Ely, Gress, Otte, Patti, Seibel, &
> > Young (2011) Birds of Kansas, or in my book; Shane (2012) History of
> > Ornithology - - - in Kansas
> > <http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/zeabook/12/>
> >
> > So, Mr. Burkepile, please let us know what you find out from the
> > old-timers up around Hoxie on what they call playa lakes, and thanks
> > for bringing up the subject.
> > Tom Shane
> > Garden City
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