Date: 7/30/17 4:57 pm
From: Charlie <chaspatt...>
Subject: RE: [MASSBIRD] Re: hummingbird moth
We have quite a few H. thysbe this year for some reason. No complaints. They are pretty cool to watch. I think the tomato horn worm is Manduca quinquemaculata though, which is quite a bit bigger and does not have clear spots. Can be mistaken for hummingbirds at a distance. I have done this😊

Charlie Patterson
Norwell, Ma

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From: Peter Trull
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 7:17 PM
To: G M ARCHAMBAULT; Daan Sandee; <massbird...>
Subject: Re: [MASSBIRD] Re: hummingbird moth

The Clear-winged Sphinx Hemaris thysbe is a widespread nectaring moth. The big green tomato hornworm caterpillar is the larval stage of this moth.  Adult moths are frequently seen in numbers on butterfly bush, which has recently been determined as an invasive species.
Peter Trull
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 6:21 PM
To: Daan Sandee ; <massbird...>
Subject: Re: [MASSBIRD] Re: hummingbird moth
I'm curious about Daan's photo, since I happened to be watching my own video of apparently the same species of Hemaris moth in Ethiopia, so I checked and they appear to be identical in the abdomen pattern.  As far as I know, this species is an Old World species.  There are about 2 dozen Hemaris moth species worldwide, with 4 or 5 reported from North America, but I am not sure which species is in Daan's photo.  Daan, can you verify this photo was taken in Massachusetts?  Thanks.  Does anyone on this listserv have any expertise or intel re the Hemaris group?  Thank you. -Ken Archambault, Birmingham, Alabama

On Sunday, July 30, 2017 3:41 PM, Daan Sandee <sandee...> wrote:
handheld, out of the kitchen window.
Posted to Massbird, with a "Subject: New ABA species ?"
That was in 2007.
Daan Sandee
Gloucester, MA

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