Date: 7/3/17 2:27 pm
From: Chuck Berman <cberman129...> [ILbirds] <ILbirds-noreply...>
Subject: Re: IBET King Rail @ Bartel Grassland 7-2-17 (No sighting)
Everyone chant "Come back Henry. Come back Henry."
Chuck Berman
Oak Park

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 3:51 PM Whimbrel Birders Club
<whimbrelbirders...> [ILbirds] <ILbirds-noreply...> wrote:

>
>
> I personally know Henry is a great birder and everyone makes mistakes
> sometimes (including Steve B. For not contacting Henry directly). I hope
> that when/if Steve B. sees this that he will realize that we have lost an
> amazing birder because of his actions. And to Henry: you are a well
> respected birder and an inspiration to many young birders (including
> myself). I am sure that whole birding community wants you to come back.
>
> Although posting a state endangered species is unethical, EVERYONE makes
> mistakes and Henry had no clue that King Rails are state endangered.
>
> Oliver Burrus
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jul 3, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ms Sheryl DeVore <sheryl_1956...>
> [ILbirds] <ILbirds-noreply...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I appreciate reading Steve's and Keith's posts. I just want to say that
> posting on IBET exactly where an endangered species is located is not
> necessary for scientists who are looking for information -- you can report
> that information directly to the scientists themselves. Maybe i can put
> together a list sometime of some of those folks, for example, the head of
> the Illinois Endangered Species Protection Board, etc., and hey, you've got
> Steve's and Keith's emails right here.
>
> That might be beneficial information for all to have as well as the list
> Steve included of all the T&E species in the state.
>
>
> All best
>
>
>
> Sheryl De Vore
> Mundelein, Illinois
> <sheryl_1956...>
>
>
> On Monday, July 3, 2017 11:19 AM, "'Mcmullen, Keith A CIV USARMY CEMVS
> (US)' <Keith.A.Mcmullen...> [ILbirds]" <
> <ILbirds-noreply...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
> All valid points and thanks for sharing. I know you know, we can e-mail,
> call, write, shout, however we wish to communicate and many folks still
> won't get it. I know the T & E species in Illinois as part of my job as
> well, but despite that, many of those on the list are safely observed and
> even photographed by many birders without causing any harm. For example, I
> don't plan on NOT telling people where LITTLE BLUE HERONS and SNOWY EGRETS
> are foraging. I really don't have any intel on where they are nesting and
> IF I did, yes, I would not post the location of the nests.
>
> I'm not disagreeing with anything you've stated, I'm just stating that if
> ALL information about the location of these T & E species in Illinois is
> withheld then how would researchers and avid birders like you and I even
> know about them? Some information shouldn't be shared with some people, but
> the great thing about IBET, eBIRD, and IBF (when we had it) is that news
> and information about the birds we all love is being shared by the
> community for all of us to enjoy, no matter what our purpose. The sighting
> information, the photographs, all of that, is essential to eBIRD data, to
> seasonal reports in Meadowlark (plug for IOS!) and North American Birds
> (plug for ABA)!
>
> If we all practice good ethics in our birding endeavors, our example,
> hopefully, is emulated in the newer generation of birders we lead. That's
> the best we can hope for!
>
> I'm just curious if we can expect an "after-the-fact" story about the
> rarity in Chicago? I would love to hear more about it.
>
> Good birdings,
>
> Keith McMullen
> O'Fallon, IL
> <Warbler7...>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <ILbirds...> [mailto:<ILbirds...>
> <ILbirds...>] On Behalf Of 'Bailey, Steven D'
> <sdbailey...> [ILbirds]
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2017 10:44 AM
> To: IBET (<ILbirds...>) <ILbirds...>
> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: IBET King Rail @ Bartel Grassland 7-2-17 (No
> sighting)
>
> Amazingly, after putting a post up on IBET just two days ago on the
> morals, ethics (& laws) in relation to birders actions with breeding
> threatened and endangered species in Illinois, someone puts up a post
> giving exact directions to a state endangered King Rail AND their small
> young! Seriously! Just the kind of thing that you DON'T want to do. I know
> that there are a lot of birders in this state that just want to make
> another check mark on their life lists, and don't really want to know or
> learn much of anything else about the birds that they seemingly enjoy, but
> the least that they could do, would be to learn the 31 species of state
> threatened and endangered birds... and act appropriately after they've
> found one. That's not much to have to ask for is it? You might also want to
> learn a little more care and ethical behavior when discussing such species
> on a public forum like IBET. So, I've taken the time to list those species,
> below. And please don't give out exact directions to another threatened and
> endangered species and their young. Good ethical/moral birding.
>
> Illinois T&E bird species
>
> 24 Endangered, 7 Threatened
>
> Endangered
>
> Short-eared Owl
>
> Upland Sandpiper
>
> American Bittern
>
> Swainson's Hawk
>
> ** Piping Plover
>
> Black Tern
>
> Northern Harrier
>
> Little Blue Heron
>
> Snowy Egret
>
> Common Gallinule
>
> Loggerhead Shrike
>
> Black Rail
>
> Swainson's Warbler
>
> Yellow-crowned Night-Heron
>
> Black-crowned Night-Heron
>
> Osprey
>
> Wilson's Phalarope
>
> King Rail
>
> Forster's Tern
>
> Common Tern
>
> ** Least Tern
>
> Bewick's Wren
>
> Greater Prairie-Chicken
>
> Yellow-headed Blackbird
>
> Threatened
>
> * Rufa Red Knot
>
> Chuck-will's-widow
>
> Black-billed Cuckoo
>
> Cerulean Warbler
>
> Mississippi Kite
>
> Least Bittern
>
> Barn Owl
>
> ** = State & Federally Endangered
>
> * = State & Federally Threatened
>
> Steve Bailey
>
> Mundelein (Lake County)
>
> <sdbailey...>
>
>
>
>
>

 
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