Date: 3/4/17 12:09 pm
From: Vince Capp <00000031300bf63b-dmarc-request...>
Subject: Re: [BRDBRAIN] UPDATE? Sparrows, Pine Island Conservation Area / Brevard County
Yes, Swamp Sparrows can and often do show yellow lores- and a very white throat. See photos:



https://www.flickr.com/photos/vincecapp/15370924688/in/photolist-K37JK7-cLNZYb-cGB7vA-pqh1oU-pfKHhc-hqQHfw-gFTw1k-niNXD3-gbY8m7-foyDcZ-foNTUu-duhEXk-dmjWec-pu8mS7-diP23Q-diP1JG-zfzywy-ddWu19-cGB7eL-cGB845



https://www.flickr.com/photos/vincecapp/13985034880/in/photostream/



https://www.flickr.com/photos/vincecapp/7679434190/in/photolist-pqh1oU-pfKHhc-hqQHfw-gFTw1k-niNXD3-gbY8m7-foyDcZ-foNTUu-duhEXk-K37JK7-dmjWec-pu8mS7-diP23Q-diP1JG-zfzywy-ddWu19-cLNZYb-cGB7eL-cGB845-cGB7vA-pCQUDr-cLGdDY



https://www.flickr.com/photos/vincecapp/10296746515/in/photostream/



One thing that White-throated does show are wing bars- some bolder than others, but they’re always there. I don’t see any on the bird in question. see photos:



https://www.flickr.com/photos/vincecapp/13675560273/



https://www.flickr.com/photos/vincecapp/16088022076/



https://www.flickr.com/photos/vincecapp/7685123612/





I think maybe the processing may have exaggerated the yellow lores on your bird- but the rest of it sure looks like a Swamp to me.



Vince Capp

Bayonet Point, FL







From: Birdbrains - Florida Birds/Natural History [mailto:<BRDBRAIN...>] On Behalf Of Christopher Ferro
Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 2:00 PM
To: <BRDBRAIN...>
Subject: [BRDBRAIN] UPDATE? Sparrows, Pine Island Conservation Area / Brevard County



Some of you have suggested White-throated Sparrow, and that hadn't even crossed my mind, but I see why. I don't see much red/rust in the crown at all (but immature Swamps can be like that), and there really wasn't much red/rust in the wings either. Those of you who said Swamp Sparrow, why would you discount White-throated? There was a hint (seen better in my bins than my camera) of yellow lores on these birds; can Swamp Sparrows have yellow lores? I'm attaching a better version of the photo (similarly cropped) - the one I sent earlier had to go through my phone, first, which sometimes alters the colors and contrast. Sorry for the compression artifacts.



Christopher Ferro

Melbourne/Brevard County

lonelybirder.org



On Mar 4, 2017 11:18 AM, "Rex Rowan" <rexrowan...> wrote:

Hi, Christopher -

That's a Swamp Sparrow. Clay-colored never shows gray auriculars (though some younger Swamps have brown ones), red on the wings, or a reddish cap.

Two of the Clay-colored's field marks - the unmarked lore and the gray patch on the side of the neck - are actually shared by most sparrows.

Rex Rowan

Gainesville



On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Ferro <lonelybirder43...> wrote:

Hi, it's me again, still unsure of my sparrows. This morning at Pine Island, about 1/2 way north on the path by the long lake/pond, on the left side in the brush, I flushed a flock of sparrows. There were several Swamp Sparrows and a few that might be Clay-colored (again?!). Photo attached. What do you think?



Christopher Ferro

Melbourne/Brevard County

lonelybirder.org



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