Date: 3/2/17 1:05 pm
From: Robert Russell <wildchough...>
Subject: [wisb] Re: Conservation Congress Hearings
Sandhills in morning light coming at a blind can look very similar to
whoopers. I've had that experience several times in Wisconsin with other
whooper aficionados and USFWS biologists.
On Thursday, March 2, 2017, Kyle Lindemer <kyle.lindemer...> wrote:

> I know we are close to that line of a subject forbidden here.
> I don't believe illegal poaching of Whooping Cranes should play into any
> decision. The vast majority of Whooping Cranes killed are poached in states
> that do not allow Sandhill Crane hunting or are killed when Sandhills are
> not in season. The birds are vastly different in size and coloration, and
> shouldn't be confused by even a novice hunter.
>
> The US Fish and Wildlife Service and the state DNRs do a spectacular job
> at managing game birds/ waterfowl. Limits are adjusted accordingly each
> year to ensure a healthy population. I believe the same management would be
> followed in the case of Sandhills as well. We would never have to worry
> about a dramatic decrease in population.
>
> To Kenny's question, I understand they are delicious. I have heard them
> called the "prime rib of the sky."
>
> Finally, I would like to share an article put out this week by the
> National Audubon Society addressing why birders and waterfowl hunters are
> natural allies in conservation. It's a good read whether you belong to one
> or both of these groups. http://www.audubon.org/news/
> why-birders-and-waterfowl-hunters-are-natural-allies
>
> Kyle Lindemer
> Madison
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:50, John K <johnny.phoenix13...>
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > In the past the argument has been that the cranes are causing
> agricultural
> > damage and that allowing farmers to contact hunters would "solve" this
> > problem. That said, there is a process that allows a farmer to get a
> permit
> > to remove problem animals.
> > Another argument is that they hunt them "out west" so why not here. The
> > populations are in different flyways and we have fewer birds in ours.
> > Although our population is stable or growing, it dismisses the fact that
> > the cranes of this region almost disappeared just a few decades ago.
> >
> > Also problematic is the Whooping Cranes that reside in our state.
> Ensuring
> > they would not be put in peril cannot be guaranteed. Misidentified
> animals
> > are shot every hunting season and self-reporting of violations is rather
> > rare. All one needs to look at is the number of wolves classified as
> "road
> > kill" that have lead fragments, or the number of unsolved Whooping Crane
> > cases. I'm not implying the behavior is segregated to hunters, it's
> simply
> > human nature. Faced with, say, a $10,000 fine many people will simple
> exit
> > the area and hope no one saw them there.
> >
> > There is a small minority of hunters that want to hunt them and these
> folks
> > tend to be very vocal. Hunting culture is in decline and it is believed
> by
> > some that by continuing to expand hunting opportunities and reduce
> > regulations and lower the minimum age one can hunt will reverse this
> trend.
> >
> > As for eating them, I'm told they taste good, but I have no interest
> > personally in trying it out.
> >
> > My personal opinion is "just leave the damn cranes alone"!
> >
> > John Kivikoski
> > Rural Iowa County
> >
> >> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 12:09 Kenneth Younger <kyounger...>
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Can someone help me understand the interest in hunting Sandhills? I do
> >> not have a problem with hunting per se, but I am also not a hunter, so
> >> perhaps I just don't get it -- is this a trophy, or are people
> >> actually eating Sandhill Cranes (or maybe something else)?
> >>
> >> -Kenny Younger
> >> Madison, WI
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 7:20 AM, Karen Etter Hale
> >> <chimneyswift1...> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>> Anyone can attend the Spring Hearing in any county you wish. The only
> >> thing you can’t do if you’re in a different county than the one in which
> >> you reside is vote for Wisconsin Conservation Congress delegates.
> >>> I would encourage you, Kris, to attend in Rock County, as there will be
> >> far fewer voices there. I’ve attended the Jefferson County hearings for
> 25
> >> years or more and usually speak up once or twice, especially to counter
> >> incorrect information. Only once, during the Mourning Dove vote, did we
> >> ever have more than about 100 attendees, usually fewer (there were 600
> at
> >> the Mourning Dove meeting).
> >>>
> >>> Karen
> >>> --
> >>> Karen Etter Hale
> >>> Lake Mills, WI
> >>> <chimneyswift1...> <javascript:;>
> >>>
> >>> *****
> >>> Making time for birds
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Kim Kreitinger <k.kreitinger...>
> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It is my understanding that you are required to attend in your county
> of
> >>>> residence.
> >>>> Kim Kreitinger
> >>>> Madison, WI
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Kris Perlberg <kris...>
> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Here’s a question:
> >>>>> Does it only make sense to attend only in the county in which you
> >> reside?
> >>>>> I am asking because I live in Dane county but reside near the
> Dane/Rock
> >>>>> county line. It would probably be more productive to make my voice
> >> heard in
> >>>>> Rock County but not sure if that is appropriate. If it’s like
> meetings
> >> with
> >>>>> our government representatives, we need to talk those in our
> districts.
> >>>>> Any info would be helpful.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 2, 2017, at 10:35 AM, Kim Kreitinger <k.kreitinger...>
> <javascript:;>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Whether to open a hunting season on Sandhill Cranes in Wisconsin will
> >> again
> >>>>> be up for consideration at this year's Conservation Congress
> hearings.
> >> We
> >>>>> encourage the birding community to voice their opinions. Hearings
> will
> >> be
> >>>>> held in each county at 7 p.m. on Monday, April 10. More details can
> be
> >>>>> found here: http://wsobirds.org/about-wso/news
> >>>>> Kim Kreitinger
> >>>>> Madison, WI
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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